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I agree with upontheroof that this was an off night, not a truly bad show like Coventry or most of 2004 for that matter (except SPAC). There was some slop, Trey was downright embarrassing in Sugar Shack, but it pales in comparison to the depressing train wreck of the band's nadir. And let's not forget, Trey celebrated the idea of fans getting online and talking about whether a show was good or bad in Bittersweet Motel. Calling them out for a bum show doesn't mean we hate them.